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Zanzil C
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.03 10:03:00 -
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Hi folks
I have been using a T1 Drake fit to run my L3s. It was the first time I used a Drake for mission running and I was excited to see how I never got more than 50% shields with a ship.
I now got my reputation high enough to be able to run L4s. I would like to continue using the Drake, and was wondering if you could help with my upgraded fit:
Rigs 3 x Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Lows 1 x Shield Power Relay II 3 x Ballistic Control System II
Meds 2 x Large Shield Extender II 1 x Experimental 10MN Afterburner I 3 x Shield Hardeners II -- depending on mission a choice between the following:
1 x Photon Scattering Field II 1 x Invulnerability Field II 1 x Heat Dissipation Field II 1 x Ballistic Deflector Field II
Highs 6 x Advanced 'Limos' Heavy Missile Bay I -- with mission specific heavy missiles
Unfortunately Heavy Missile Launchers II are 10 days away but will get them asap.
- Do you think this is a viable fit for L4s?
- What do I need to improve?
Thanks all for taking the time to reply. |
Zanzil C
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.03 11:53:00 -
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Thank you for taking the time to reply. Wuxi that's exactly the sort of feedback I needed, appreciated.
In your opinion what should be the next ship I should be aiming at for L4s - within a reasonable time frame?
I'm Minmatar and currently skilling towards Heavy Missile Launcher IIs (10d) for this particular Drake fit.
Skilling for a Macha will take me only 8d but the price tag is way off my budget (190mil is what I've made from L1-L3 loots, including the expenses for a Rupture and this Drake)
I've also got a plan for a Loki (on the basis of being Minmatar) but that's gonna take 57 days, including the recommended certificates.
Feedback, ideas, suggestions very welcome! |
Zanzil C
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.03 13:55:00 -
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Thanks for the reply.
The limiting factor for the Macha is really the cost. Sure it must be a powerhouse for L4s but I don;t know how soon I'll make 1,5 billion.
Btw I tried a L4 mission with the drake I posted (with XR-3200 as per your recommendation) and the first time I barely escaped with 20% hull and in total I had to repair twice (cost 5,5 mil)
Not sure if it's worth doing L4s at this point. |
Zanzil C
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.03 14:28:00 -
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Ok so the mission was this one http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=RightHandofZazzmatazz4
Pretty straight forward.
I followed your advice re XR-3200, thank you
I read in EvE survival that I need to tank heat, so fitted two T2 heat shield hardeners and a T2 Invul Shield.
As I couldn't afford T2 Drones I stayed with T1 Warriors (Minmatar Drone V, Drone Int V).
I usually orbit at 15-20 k with my 10MN AB switched on.
Do you see anything I'm doing wrong? (other than the lack of T2 HML and T2 drones)
Thanks! |
Zanzil C
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.03 17:12:00 -
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Ok thank you all guys for the awesome advice I will go for a tengu as it makes the most sense financially and operationally.
In addition to the Tengu-specific skill training, is it a good idea to go for the Tengu recommended certificates, or are they too much?
Thanks a lot for spending time with a little noob, your advice was greatly appreciate. |
Zanzil C
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.04 07:41:00 -
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Izziee pretty much nailed it - it takes me 2 hours per mission in my Drake, not to mention the amount of missiles. I don't like missiles at all, I loved how my Drake tanks, but missiles aint for me.
I am skilling towards a Mael (4d) and will see how it goes. Recommended fits, tanking tactics would be very welcome.
Thanks again
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Zanzil C
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.05 07:30:00 -
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Thanks all for the assistance
The character I'm trying to skill towards an effective L4 runner is http://eveboard.com/pilot/Zeus_C
Any suggestions will be appreciated
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Zanzil C
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.07 11:43:00 -
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Hello Wuxi
Got some questions regarding the fit you shared, which again I thank you for.
1) I really don't like cap boosters, because it's one more thing to watch out for and it's one more consumable to keep an eye on. Do you see a Large Shield Extender being a viable alternative, in the sense that the more shield available means less need for the Large Shield Booster running?
2) Rigs. Your recommendation was Large Core Def Safeguards. My question is, on which basis did you chose those rigs over the Def Field Extenders or the Def Field Purgers?
3) Closing, one general question that relates to (2) above. When you sit down with EFT and start putting together a ship, how do you actually go about it? How do you decide for eg. whether to fit 2 Gyro II and 3 Tracking Enhancers versus 3 Gyro II's and 2 Tracking Enhancers? Or, to complicate things even more, why not swap the 3 x Gyro IIs with 3 x Ballistic Control System IIs, which will -in theory- result in dps boost but less tracking, thus pretty much the same damage output.
What I'd like to understand (and this is something missing from EVE's new player tutorials) are the factors that affect your decisions. One thing I clearly understand is resistances; according to the rats' damage type I play around with the shield hardeners, but what about more complex ship subunits like the ones mentioned above? Is there a golden rule you follow and come up with the best fit available for each ship?
Thanks again all for their input.
Wuxi Wuxilla wrote:[Maelstrom, PvE Lowskill] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
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